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Are “Junk Wax” Cards About to EXPLODE?!

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We gotta almost stop calling it junk wax because, like, these cards are starting to hold some pretty, pretty significant value. It started with basketball inserts and now it's blood into baseball. And football's always the last one that it flows down to. I think people are realizing, like, these big guys, cards that have been underappreciated, like they're printing more than they printed. We're undervaluing this stuff. Shaq's rookies should be more than $3. Duncan, same thing. Tim Duncan. We have the iconic Bo Jackson card right here. Iconic card, iconic player. Ironically, out of the two cards, I Beckett last week's card and the suits card. Both of them are from the junk wax era. Arguably not junk wax. I mean, they are, but like they're not. And they aren't treated as such anymore. They've kind of stated their claim in the hobby, but I could see a bunch more of these popping up as more people are realizing that these were generational players and they deserve more of that hype and than what they maybe were getting at the time. I'm Ryan Alford. And I'm Bella Schaefer and this is Collector Nation. We are curating all of the content in the hobby just for you, all in one place. All the videos, all the podcasts, all the reels, all those drops you want right here, right now. What's up, guys? Welcome to Collector Nation. Ryan, Brian and Bella. Hello. Hello. Hello. How's everyone doing this week? We're good. You know, just living that vintage life. That's a shirt you have on. I know. And I've been digging through like the 50,000 card collection. It's not. I don't think it's. I mean, it's. It's a lot. It's a lot. Thousands, probably 20,000, 30,000 collection. And going through it, the most well organized collection. Yu-Gi-Oh All binders. What era? 70s. Like 74 to 90 2005. Yu-Gi-Oh And the most. All football and like maybe 5% basketball and so. And some of. Some of it worth absolutely nothing as, you know, a lot of it. And then a handful of things that have grading potential and mainly just like cool stuff. I mean, it's like, there's no. I was hoping for, you know, nice, I don't know, Brady Rookie Perfect 10 or something. No, none of that. Some Brady cool Brady cards that have some upside graded, but not. Nothing like that, but a lot of inserts. Some, Some. I'm still going through it. I did just enough to like go, okay, I think. I know Ruffle was here. Made him an offer that, you know, may not have been favorable to us. Well, I mean, it's a lot of work taking advantage of them. It's just more like. Yu-Gi-Oh If you, if you sold every one of these car. You know how it is, man. I mean, I sold like all that shit. Oh Yu-Gi-Oh There's a million dollars worth of cards here. Yu-Gi-Oh If someone had a million hours to put into it. But time is money. Time is money. So. But you could bring all of them to the national next year and just let the two dollar bin. Yu-Gi-Oh Go through. That's mainly why I bough, like, honestly, we'll sell more in the, in the dollar bins. And I wanted to get some variety and old cards and the kids who come in and, and not be just like modern stuff. So honestly. And then I did find a few things. Archie Griffin, rookie. Lawrence Taylor, rookies. Mike Singletary, rookies. And sweetness. Walter Payton, rookie. Probably seven or an eight. Maybe. Maybe. I mean, that's a big card. Raw. It's like 600 bucks. It's a. It's a cool card. And then. Didn't know it was even in there. Don't really know the value yet. Well, I. I do. Is it. Is it? Not a lot. You keep that. Less than you think. Yes. Less than you think. I'll let y' all guess, actually. That's fun. Yu-Gi-Oh And what it's worth is what someone will pay for this one. With me marketing it. Brian's gonna pay. Ryan's gonna pay a lot for it. So I found a printing press plate from 2005 just staring at me in the Pandora I'd gone by this page like a hundred times, but it was just like so drab because I didn't know what it was. And it's Peyton Manning. And it's a 101 magenta printing plate from 2005 from Topps Total. So a little bit about that season. It's like a sheet of aluminum. Yu-Gi-Oh The Colts went 14 and 2. That was the first season that Peyton Manning beat Tom Brady. However, they did not make it to. They didn't make it to the Zebra bowl or anything. But the year prior, Peyton Manning had gotten mvp. Oh, oh, he's going up in value. Every word is spoken. Knowing all of that information, how much do you think that is worth? I didn't think it was actually. I thought it was a few hundred dollars. I mean, like, I just, I had low expectations. Even though it's a one on one. I know. Like I. That was just a guess. A few Hundred bucks. Okay. I would say 700. Okay. So it's about 225. Okay. Is what it goes for. It's a weird product. There's not a whole lot of to comp against. But Brian, all that means is worth every bit of 700, like you said. Yu-Gi-Oh I mean honestly like prefer the juice on this thing. And it's not. There's not much. Like you can't go and really get them graded because they don't grade very well because they're. It says one of one on it. Magenta. One of one. So. And it has his name and his face on that aluminum. If you're a Peyton Manning fan, you are should be embarrassed if you haven't already DMed me and getting your hands on. So I actually posted about it yesterday and like within an hour already had somebody. Is this still available? I. It's not even on the website yet. Told you. See, I would hold that, man. Just fold it for a little bit. I think it's just a cool piece of history. I didn't think it was $10,000. I mean I knew like I just. I had low expectations. You see the one of one and you're kind of like a little shell shocked. It's cool. I think I will hold on to it until I get a. Drive the offer up with my. Pretend to hold onto it. You know what else is that? You know what else is happening like interestingly in the hobby is like there's like a waterfall effect and it's happening to like inserts from the. You know. Yes. We gotta almost stop calling it junk wax because like these cards are starting to hold some pretty, pretty significant value. But it started with basketball inserts and now it's bled into baseball. And football's always the last one that like, that it flows down to. So I've seen like, I see obviously like the Griffey or the Jordans and all that, blah, blah, blah. They're. I got, you know this realm better than me. Brian, I gotta send you some pictures of the stuff. And like I've looked up like the value. Like none of it's crazy, but it's mainly football. And to your point, it's like those weird inserts that I swear if they're basketball, they're like hundreds of dollars, you know, or maybe more. It's going to trickle down though. Football's going to trickle down. I mean, why wouldn't it? It's the most popular sport like almost in the world. I'll bring some of those next week on the show, like, there's some. You know, the ones that, like, have acetate on one side and, like, not on the other. Like, you can see through it, but it's the player. Yu-Gi-Oh Like. Yu-Gi-Oh stuff like that. I also. I also saw, like, Marvel cards. I have a bunch of those, like, Spider Man 10. Like, top six. Like, those are starting to go. So, like, it. It's. That's really healthy for. For the industry, a hundred percent. That's actually a really interesting point and kind of. Thank you, Bella. You're. You're so welcome. I appreciate that. But kind of on that, Ryan wrote an editorial this week on the Shaquille o' Neal market as well as the Dunkin Market, if you want to kind of elaborate on that. If not. I can. Yu-Gi-Oh No, I mean, the Big man is kind of what Brian's saying, I think, a little bit. Like, everybody's. Everything's trickling down, like. And I think people are realizing, like, these big guys. Cards that have been underappreciated for how they're hall of Fame players and their impact on the game. And, you know, some of these, you know, Shaq's been in the news and different. He's always in the news because he's on TV with NBA coverage and all that stuff. But it's Is fascinating to me, even going through this collection and looking up the cards somewhat related. It's like, this stuff is way undervalued. Like, way underpriced. Like, they're. They're printing more than they printed. They're printing. I saw the numbers for tops, like, 700 million or something. Like, the Upper Deck didn't sniff that number. I don't think so. They printed a lot. They printed millions, but it wasn't that much. So that we're undervaluing this stuff. If. If a new card, nobody's worth a dollar. Shaq's rookies should be more than $3, which they are now. But, like, literally never. Duncan's. Same thing. Tim Duncan, greatest big beat of all time. One of, you know, top of 10, top 15, like, legitimately. And you know what else I saw, too? And this may be. Bella, this could be your. Like is like, all the, like, pop, like, cards, like, from, like, the rappers and the singer. Like, all the different people from the 90s are starting to, like, go, you know, go crazy. But, Bella, you're probably a little too young for that. But they're starting to do, like, Nick, the Nickelodeon cards, like, whatever. Yu-Gi-Oh Block Hannah Montana. Like, they're starting to go up. Our friend, you Know who we know? Well, Evan Parker at Mantle, he wrote an article about it and it, it's, it's really pretty cool to see like it's starting to spread out and it becomes individualized as opposed to be like we're putting you in this Beckett And especially for a card shop, I would think like you now, now you have more options for people. So Yu-Gi-Oh I think it's pretty cool. No, I, I want to get my hands on some Topps Chrome Disney. I've been itching. I've been itching and somebody didn't order some. Oh, we, hey, it's because we may or may not have a, you know, little surprise coming. Yu-Gi-Oh But no, I, I agree with you. There's a lot of different verticals that they're, they're taking and I'm excited to see where they go next. And Topps has had a killer top slash. Fanatics has had a killer, killer week in the hobby. Got some big news with oh Yu-Gi-Oh the Tops instant packs. Yu-Gi-Oh Fanatics collect and then instant packs, which is really interesting. What are yalls thoughts on the, the instant packs? I know you got a lot of thoughts. Yu-Gi-Oh I mean I bought some and I thought it was awesome. They did a great job with it. I think it's fascinating. They carved out 10% of the chrome black basketball that didn't get into distribution. And you know, I can't blame them. Like, hey, you don't have to print it or don't have to print the packaging, don't have to print the, the shipping. And you know that's a channel that's already moving. It's a little bit of a slippery slope as far as how far that goes. But it's a hobby shop. I think they know. And our place here is serving the customers on the ground Fleer and the experience of that brings. But I can't blame them as a distribution point of getting into it more and more, you know, you're giving people the option. It's, I mean from a business point, it's smart as hell, you know, so. And the experience was slick. I did, I bought three packs and again, what do they charge you? What do they charge you? But all day, that's it. Yu-Gi-Oh that was it. And you know, you paid. All they sold was hobby boxes of that pro, the Black. one-of-one there's a 350 for the hobby box if you could get that price. And you got the two packs plus an auto. So with this you got one four card pack or five cards. Four cards. Four cards. And you had like A one in three chance of an auto. I think I got two autos out of three packs and they weren't. One was Brandon Miller for the Hornets or Charlotte's team, who's actually a good player. And. But the, the Yu-Gi-Oh ux, like all that, I was, you know, being in that space and having been designing our own, you know, it's what you'd expect. I mean, they're, you know, top brand in the business. So I. It made me feel good about my experience though, because I feel like it. It was different for us, but on par with kind of like the surprise and the delight and all that. But I don't know, it was fun. What do you think about that, Brian? I mean, you've been in this. I mean, I think that like, the ROI is much higher than. I mean. Yu-Gi-Oh a 350 hobby box. Like what, like, what is the TR ROI? If, like, not much, right? Not 300. Your hundred dollars pack. Like $100 pack. You might. No packaging and no freight. Yu-Gi-Oh you can get 50 to, you know, 70% back and you feel great and then you have a chance to one-of-one it. So I think they, they put a Fleer on it, which is great. But, you know, I don't know if they have any big chase cards in there that motivate people to buy more than a couple packs. Um, but Yu-Gi-Oh I mean, I think I. Two numbered cars that were exclusive to that grouping. And then you had a chance to get any, like, I guess they randomized it. They, you know, the way they do the packs now, I guess, and they put that over here that came out of the same randomization. So in theory, you have just as much chance to get the biggest hits in the digital packs. What I thought was interesting was I saw like, content creators in the hobby doing YouTube videos where, you know, typically they're sitting there opening packs, whatever, but they're opening the digital packs. And it almost kind of like I was sitting there kind of like. I don't know if I love that. Like, I. It kind of takes away like a little bit of that human interaction of them just like sitting on their phone opening the packs. And like, you have the light, like the, you know, screen record of them doing it. But I don't know, I personally, it wasn't the kind of content that I would like to consume. Yu-Gi-Oh I mean, if I'm gonna do that, I'll just do. I'll just do it, you know, for myself. Like, I don't. I don't need like a big, big audience and I Think that'd be really boring. I. But I. Yu-Gi-Oh I wrote a second. A piece about this. Yu-Gi-Oh I'm writing a lot. I'm a writer first, so my thoughts are all Stephen King. He's like Mark Twain. But I. But I had this, and I've been thinking about this a lot before. Even though they came out, which is basically, breakers are in the honey hole. Not because they make money on the brakes. They're holding in physical possession everything that comes out of them without taking the risk because they've pre sold it all. Tops now gets first dibs at the best cards that get pulled because they're in their possession. Does it mean they're going to keep them from you? No, but they get the first right to offer, the first right to store, the first right to resell. They make money twice on every digital pack because as soon as you vault it, you got to pay them to sell it. And it's a good. It's a reasonable fee. But Tops just doubled their, you know, like, they reduced cost and doubled their profit centers. And I'm not saying, like, as a number. I'm just saying double the opportunity because they get to sell it twice. Because breaking is always old product that's already been. It's already been taken out of something. Usually, you know, a lot of times, like repacking is breaks of the new boxes, you know, happening that. But the breakers don't take advantage of this. Most of them don't. But we will when we start doing big breaks, which is immediate buyback offers. Yu-Gi-Oh Because why wouldn't we? Because we can't. If I go to a show, I've got to pay 90 to 95% for the biggest hits there. That's how. That's how the market is. If I can buy the biggest hits that come out of breaks for 60 to 70%, because I've got time, place, value, immediate money for the seller. So everybody's winning at the card show. We're all even 90, 95% because there's so many people there and there, and no one's going to give it up for less than that. Nobody's gonna sell a Kaboom for 80%. But if a Kaboom hits in the middle of a break and then the person that hit it, that paid $80 to get in and has a $8,000 car staring at them, why wouldn't they take 70% to not have to deal with shipping time, speculation, all that? So they one-of-one immediate cash. And the breakers and the people that. So breakers are actually In a. A better spot than they realize. Sitting between the. As the holder of the card and the opportunity that brings. Yu-Gi-Oh I mean, I would say, like, the only thing that I would. Why I wouldn't do it if I were you. Like, I. If you hit a card like that, like, I want to see if I can. It grades out. Right. And so that's why I would take in possession, because I'm like, I don't know if I want to sell it to you, because if it's a freaking 10, like, I'm. I'm. I'm not. Then you just have a second option. We get it graded and we share the profits. That would be funny. He wants to see how complicated he can make. I think anything can be automated, you know, take your chances. Everybody wants a chance. Chance it. This is what I did with a kid in the store. He had a LeBron James rookie card that looks like it's probably a perfect 10, but it's got a couple things, and I want. If it's a 10, I want it personally in my collection. And he did, you know, he didn't really want to sell it, so I bought it from him for the. For the exact PSA 9 and told him I would give him an extra two grand if it tens. So that took the risk away from him. I took the risk, and I have some upside, too, but I left him in the game, and so. And maybe he'll forget about it because he'll get it back in eight months. No, he did the express. Yu-Gi-Oh It's worth it enough. Seven months. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh exactly. Three days, four hours, and seven minutes. The word express is all relative, you know, like, if I'm. If I'm in the drive through at McDonald's, like, that's a different express than PSA. But the one thing about the buyback, Ryan, which is interesting, is you already. If. If they're gonna sell it on ebay, you already have a 15%, like, kind of cushion, right? Exactly. So it's like, okay, you can. If you're gonna sell on ebay, go ahead, sell it. Of course, there's always gonna be guys that want to get it graded. Like you said, like, if you and I do it, we're thinking that, and then lot of other people, but there's another 50 or 60% that just would like that cash right then. And not enough breakers are taking advantage of that. What I think is interesting, you brought up, like, tops doing the buybacks. So at the national, they announced the, like, zero fees. If you do Fanatics Cash instead of actual cash. Yu-Gi-Oh So then it's like three ways that they're making money because they're now just giving you never leaves the ecosystem fake money. Yes, exactly. I'm sure they're charging like. Like com C which no one really talks about them anymore. But they could just. They could do like a charge on getting Fanatics cash too. Like if you give them a hundred bucks to get 95 bucks of Fanatics cash. But I don't know about that. Yu-Gi-Oh I don't know you're buying cards online, bidding in auctions or checking comps on public Yu-Gi-Oh fi. Protecting yourself digitally matters just as much as protecting your collection. That's why I use NordVPN. It's all in one digital security solution with built in next gen antivirus that blocks threats before they reach your device. 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But speaking of tops even more, the debut patches are making their entrance into the football realm. Shocking. Yu-Gi-Oh shocking. I can't believe they did that. I'm curious as to how much Mendoza's will go for when it when the time comes probably we'll see. He's throwing pick sixes to my Clemson boys. He his first his like fifth pass of the game in the preseason was to Clemson linebacker that was like a fourth round draft pick six. It's probably the best moment of his career. Good as greatest name is a linebacker, right. Wade Wood. As. Yu-Gi-Oh Are you guys excited for this weekend? Oh Yu-Gi-Oh I mean I'll. I'll be more excited if we one-of-one but a lot of unknowns for the Tiger v. Tiger. Yu-Gi-Oh Death Valley v. Death Valley. It'd be a fun game. I'm excited for football, period. And I think. I think Clemson's a better team than they were last year, but I'm not sure our record will be better because it's. Our schedule's hard. It's like, I think we're better, but I don't know. It's hard. We'll see, I think, every such a long season. I know, like, I'm just coming in a little tempered this time. But I'm excited for football. I'll tell you that. I'm tired of, like, I've watched every creator rip boxes. I've. You know, if, you know, like, it's playing in the background and I'm working. I'm hearing the same things. I'm. And I don't watch that much tv. It's more like the radio. Yu-Gi-Oh Like, hearing it. So I'm pumped for football. Yu-Gi-Oh So I was supposed to be in a. A fantasy draft with Jason, who we live break with. He invited me to do a Dynasty fantasy LA fantasy group. And I didn't really understand what I was committing to. And then somehow I could see the draft. I could see everything, but I had no team, and I missed the whole draft. And if that's not the most me story, I don't know what it is. So I am no longer in a fantasy draft. And I'm actually kind of sad about it because I'm so excited. You went undrafted. I went. I went undrafted. I was so confused. And it was on Sleeper. I had never used Sleeper before. I'd only ever used Sleeper. Espn. Yu-Gi-Oh that third. I. I'm so out of the. I haven't done fantasy in, like, five years. I just don't have time to keep up with it. I was so excited. And. But I, you know, it was best because I would have had to do it for multiple years. And. And that's a lot of commitment. Yu-Gi-Oh So, Yu-Gi-Oh it takes the fun out of it sometimes, too. You're like, oh, I'm a Bears fan. And I. But I'm going against. I have this guy and I'm going against this guy. And I'm like, I had to stop that. I was like. I don't know. Like, they just kept, like. Like canceling each other out. And then I'm like, what am I rooting for here? I don't even know I want them to one-of-one but, like, I want my fancy guy to throw for a lot of yards, but the bears to one-of-one 44 to 43 or whatever. And, Yu-Gi-Oh it Is. I just got out of it too, and it's all at work. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh No, I was having to pay 30. Oh, come on. I should have had you, like, at least a free freebie. Like, I think you're like, they were trying to fill the spot. They were. They literally were. I think I was probably so far down on the list of people. Why didn't you do the automatic. The automatic draft? I. I put it on auto draft, but for some reason it did not auto Dr. It didn't create a team. No. I was witnessing the draft happening, and I'm like, oh, where's my team? There was no team. I. I don't know. I literally don't know. But I think that was God's way of being like, you don't need this in your life. Yu-Gi-Oh You're gonna lose. So, like, let's not let. Yu-Gi-Oh I don't know. That's funny. I do know you have to bounce, Brian. I'm about to like to your. Anything on the Ludex front we can hit, Brian, before you get out of here? No, I think in the next couple weeks we're gonna have some cool stuff, some cool announcements, but right now we're just grinding, grinding, grinding. And there we go. And waiting for football. Man, that's gonna be awesome. Yu-Gi-Oh The scans will start scanning, I imagine. I'm sure they've already started. Yu-Gi-Oh it's like the first week of, like, Sunday. Is it like, scan central? Like, how does that correlate? Like, when it gets to the season, I know it go. It's gotta increase. It hops over Pokemon. That's really the first thing you see is it'll just. Pokemon will be the fourth most scanned instead of the third, and football will be. But, Yu-Gi-Oh you see, I mean, there's no question around releases. It's probably 20, 30% more scans. That's crazy. Yu-Gi-Oh makes sense. Pretty nuts. All right. Sitting in front of me, we have one of your favorite players cards and one of just the most iconic cards in the space. You know him, you love him. Mr. Bo Jackson. So this is our second episode of card History History, and we have the iconic Bo Jackson card right here that, you know, redefined what it means to have cards and be just a generational player. I know this is one of your favorites, and you probably know everything about this card, so. Yes, I do. I. This was like, my favorite card. It was 1990. I was a young lady. He's myself a young lad collecting. And Bo knows. Yes, Bo knows how to market. It's A great shot, black and white. And you know, Bo Jackson is not, I mean, Yu-Gi-Oh is the card and all that, but greatest athlete, One of the greatest athletes of all time to play football and baseball at an all star level, all pro level, like transcended, you know, so many things. You had the Nike Air, you had Jordan going on. It was like this. He was like the crossover for those sports. You had Jordan and basketball and Nike Air campaigns growing galore as Jordan started to transcend and winning his first few titles there in the early 90s and building up to six. And then Bo Jackson doing his thing, got derailed by like many great athletes by some injuries, but played two very difficult, very physical, you know, one very physical, one very. Just technical and, and physical too, running. And he's one of the only players of all time to. To play both of those at that level. Like Deion Sanders was the closest, probably second to do both of those sports at that level. And I think Bo was, I think better overall, um, beyond in football was ridiculous. It's a. They're probably the most comparable between football. Yu-Gi-Oh I think Bo is a better baseball player in his prime, but just an incredible card. Iconic with the shoulder pads in the bat around it and the all time chase card. And then I got this press proof. Just the national this year. Yu-Gi-Oh I left. I mean this is how that. It's got proof and rare. So I left that sticker on the stickers. Stickers don't lie. You know, the yellow, the proofs, you know, the, the residue from it, whatever it is. But it was an sec. Authentic card that was a press proof. Cool. I'd never seen one of these. I don't know, maybe there's millions of them in print, but I've never seen one. And I've been to a fair amount of places where I think I would have. Yu-Gi-Oh I saw this like the last day we were there in the afternoon on the Fleer Yu-Gi-Oh You skipped away. I was like walk. I was like walking by and when I did like a, you know, like, like moment like breaks hard break. It's like what is that? And proceeded to pick that up. Yu-Gi-Oh Iconic card, iconic player, greatest in my book, top three athletes of all time when he was in his prom. And ironically out of the the two cards I Beckett last week's card and this week's card, both of them are from the junk wax era. Yu-Gi-Oh both of them are arguably not junk wax. I mean they are, but like they're not. And they aren't treated as such anymore. They've kind of stated their. Their claim in the hobby, but I, I think it's kind of tied into what we were talking about earlier. Like, I, I could see a bunch more of these popping up as, you know, more people are realizing that these were generational players and they deserve kind of more of that hype than what they maybe were getting at the time. And Bo's crushing it with ballerina. Yu-Gi-Oh so we saw that firsthand. Oh, my gosh. Well, we've talked about on the show, like, that product's, you know, it's killer to open. I. I've got some of it boys, and I'll rip some every now and then. It's just so hard to get your hands on. Got the new Mahomes version of that product and I am talking with some of the team over there and they'll probably be coming on the show has not confirmed yet, so. But I do have calls being scheduled literally as we speak. I had. This is the first time I'm here. I know I had a LinkedIn DM exchange with one of the lead guys. Man, LinkedIn coming in, coming in strong, coming in strong. But I love what they're doing, so I want to support it and talk about it more about what they've got planned. And with Mahomes coming out, it's going to be pretty cool. With cards, I think you'd be like starstruck if Bo Jackson came on the show. Oh, no, just not starstruck. We just boys, you know. Yu-Gi-Oh But I feel like you would like in Little Child, you would be like, oh, Yu-Gi-Oh Oh, for sure. I'd be like, Mr. Jackson, can I get you anything? And you want to drive my car or want to like, you know, like, can I, can I buy you something? Yu-Gi-Oh what can I do? Yu-Gi-Oh what can I do? Yu-Gi-Oh I don't know, kind of dine you a bit. I know it would be. He would be one of the few. Him and Jordan and they're both like, I mean, huge stars. But I'm around a lot of big stars. I don't. It doesn't probably those two. But one-of-one it's a great card and I'm glad you Beckett it. I know I. I'm trying to, you know, pick ones that have sentimental value to you and are just, you know, also iconic. I also thought for final moments we could open up some Topps Chrome hangers. I was wondering how we were going to split a hanger, I guess. No, we each got one. We each got the weirdest format in. In all of sports. The Hanger product. Yu-Gi-Oh it's like. It's the strangest thing. These cards are worth more than they ever have been. Let's wrap it in a box with cellophane and then put it in a cellophane wrapper that may or may not be protecting those cards in a very thick format that you. You swear you're dinging every card as it comes out of the cellophane, and you're like, why does this. Whose idea was this? So I can, like, I don't know, throw them down some stairs or something so I actually, like, even get the cellophane off. Yu-Gi-Oh go. Yu-Gi-Oh exactly. Welcome to a hanger pack here on Collector Nation. Yu-Gi-Oh I have a lot of experience with this futility here, I have to say. Would you like to exchange? This would be your opportunity, if you want. No, I'm fine keeping this one. I just need you to. That was your chance. I don't have, like, the. The grip strength. Just for the record, if you. If you damage my cards, though, it's gonna have man hands. Yu-Gi-Oh I don't. I don't want to break a nail, so. All right. Yu-Gi-Oh I have to say, look at that. Look at this. Look at this. You gotta watch the YouTube. If you're not. If you're listening, you need to be watching. Go to YouTube and see the. The ridiculousness of all this. I mean, you talk about, like, I'm not, like, a tree hugger, but, you know, like, trees getting knocked down left and right for this, like, terrible packaging. And this is not a tops thing. This is every hanger that's ever come before it. Yep. No, I believe that. So here we get this. Nice Hope. I got a thousand dollar card here in this cellophane wrapper that maybe there's some cigarettes in there with it too. I mean, you know, like. Well, I mean, it is kindling if we want to make a fire. Okay. So dumb. Like, how do you. How do you not ding a corner trying to open the damn thing? I have no idea. Make it make sense. Little ASMR opening for you. Oh, I hated that I opened this one. Oh, I need to put this over here. Oh, throw that away for me. All right, well, starting off strong, Travis etn. Okay. Jonathan Taylor. So running back to the start. I think I one-of-one and I'm an ATN fan, but John Taylor's better. Who's your. Okay, I got Clemson. Clemson guy as my second one. Oh, who. Who's your second? Jeremy Rucker. Okay. Sexy dexy wins. Dexter Lawrence from Clemson. All right. Keon Coleman, wide receiver. Oh, how about Derek Henry the Great. The best running back in the game. Winner. That's three. Three. You're O for three. Okay, who you got next? Jonathan Taylor. Okay. Also for the Colts, Alec Pierce, who's actually a silent assassin. And on the outside, just got a really big contract. Very good wide receiver. John Taylor's probably. What is this, an Indianapolis Colts like battle here? Michael Pittman Jr. Well, I got the Raiders now, so. Raheem Moser. Moser, yes. He just came from Miami. Good running back. Okay. All right. Mike Evans. All right. Everybody's like, why are you going this slow through base cards? Wait, we. We gotta. George Carlaptis. Cooper De Jeans. Not my safety. Sanders. Oh, okay. Cam Ward. Chase Brown. First one from the Bangles. Hey, another Cam Ward on the silver. All right, that's two big ones for this guy. All right. Oh, Yu-Gi-Oh Hampton from the Charge. You had the chance to take this pack and you didn't do it. Okay, well, just Luther Burden Yu-Gi-Oh so. Oh, that number. No, you're just Silver. He's a good player. That's a decent card. Yu-Gi-Oh that's. I thought Xavier Worthy, good player, needs a bounce back. George Kittle. Silver. Yu-Gi-Oh A lot of nothing. All right. You know, the best running back probably in the game with him or Henry. Mr. You got tez Johnson on the rookie. I think that's a X factor. We've got a Derek Henry on the Silver and rookie of the year quarterback Tyler show on Shaw, Chuck, however you say his name, the weirdest spelling and name. Silver. That's probably the winner. Winner, chicken dinner rooster. Well, I think we both kind of got smoked, though. That's the rookie of the year. The. The second or third best quarterback in the game. And it's a Silver version. What's. What's Tyler Shuck go for in Silver? Call up there. What's Tyler Schuck Silver Chrome football. Go for 30 bucks. 20. 30 bucks. Okay. So you made your money back. Yu-Gi-Oh no, I one-of-one That was. This was a game, wasn't it? Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Okay. Okay. Okay. one-of-one make sure we got the rules of engagement. I was just hoping to have better cards than your stack. Um, Yu-Gi-Oh And they weren't great. They were not great. Um, I didn't hear anything good. No, other than that Luther Burden. Was it Luther Burden? Yu-Gi-Oh You hit him? Um, Yu-Gi-Oh He's exciting player, but nothing numbered. No, but womp, womp. I still have yet to hit anything good ever, so, you know, I just feel like a Fleer and that's okay. But you can watch us on ebay live. Hit some awesome things for you and not for us. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh I don't. I don't put my bad juju on the cards because I don't actually hold them. I'm just the comedic relief, the DJ and the admin, so don't even have to worry. But Sundays, eBay live, 6pm Eastern or Tuesdays, 7pm Eastern for TCG. Tuesdays. Sunday is Sports Sunday. So we keep it fun, we keep it fresh, and we upgraded to music and it was a vibe. So there you go. Yu-Gi-Oh Recommend you. Oh, the Collector Station. Underscore. Com. Yu-Gi-Oh Get that handle out so people can find. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh And make sure to check us out on Instagram and TikTok at the collector Station or the Collector Nation. Both follow and you'll see a whole lot more of me, a whole lot more Ryan and some of Cole, who's our store manager. Oh, Yu-Gi-Oh we love it. It's just getting started. And again, go check out the new app that's out. Go to the iOS. The collector nation. The ESPN of the hobby, baby. So all your hobby. All the best content. All the content. Got some collection management tools and different pricing. So integrated all in. So digital packs. You can open your own packs. We got a little bit of the store Fleer too. You got our secret passage into the digital packs. It's fun. So give that a shout out and you can one-of-one some pretty cool stuff that straight from the inventory here in the store, all Beckett And you can hear Ryan's voice sing Sweet Nothings. It is the world's greatest hobby assistant that's way smarter than I am that just happens to share Numbar. Who knows voice. Yu-Gi-Oh Gives him a big head. Oh, you know, I just try to dream for the day when I know as much knowledge as it does. I wish I could learn the way it can feed it, you know, feed it things. Believe me, me too. That's how I feel every time I see a new set, I'm like, I wish I could just like. Yu-Gi-Oh like micro. But it is cool if you're getting into the game or, you know, I'm. I'm proud of what we've built there. It's. It's helpful. Like, I've been very discerning with it. Like asking about. You can literally accomplish things. So, Yu-Gi-Oh tell the cards. It'll give you comps. It'll explain different parallels. Very. I mean, like, it's a great learning tool and assistant for all the complexities of the hobby. And you can have just a conversation back and forth with with Ryan. Yu-Gi-Oh So I appreciate everyone. Yep. The CollectorNation.com you can download the app, find all the links, find the links to ebay live. That's always there on site. We'll see you next time. 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Episode summary

Ryan Alford, Brian Ludden and Bella are back with another Collector Nation hobby roundtable covering the latest shifts in sports cards, from new technology to overlooked vintage and junk-wax-era cards. The crew breaks down Topps Instant Packs after Ryan tries the new $100 format himself, debating what digital ripping of real physical cards could mean for collectors, hobby shops, breakers, vaulting and card resale. Ryan also explains why breakers may have an overlooked advantage when major cards are pulled and buyers want immediate liquidity. They also talk about the massive card collection Ryan recently picked up, the unexpected Peyton Manning 1/1 hiding inside it, growing interest in older inserts and pop culture cards, the iconic Bo Jackson card, football season returning and what’s next for Collector Station and Collector Nation. Topics Covered Topps Instant Packs The future of sports card ripping $100 four-card packs Fanatics Collect and vaulting Breaker buyback opportunities The Peyton Manning 1/1 discovery Buying massive card collections Junk-wax-era cards gaining value Shaq and Tim Duncan cards Entertainment and pop culture cards Collector Station’s Topps distribution Football Debut Patches Football season and Ludex scan data Bo Jackson’s iconic 1990 card Modern appreciation for junk-wax-era stars 🔗 Links Mentioned in This Episode Collector Nation Website: https://thecollectornation.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecollectornation TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thecollectornation YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thecollectornation Articles Mentioned Topps Chrome Black: https://thecollectornation.com/analysis/buyback-offers-breaker-leverage Time Duncan https://thecollectornation.com/analysis/the-shaq-spike-is-real-it-is-structural-and-the-sports-card-lessons Shaq: https://thecollectornation.com/analysis/shaquille-oneals-card-market-has-doubled-since-mid-july-and-nobody Collector Station Website: https://thecollectorstation.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecollectorstation Ryan Alford Website: https://www.ryanalford.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanalford Brian Ludden / Ludex Website: https://www.ludex.com App: https://www.ludex.com/download Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ludexapp ⭐ If you enjoyed this episode, follow Collector Nation, leave a 5-star review, and share it with another collector.